Film Theory: Why You SHOULDN'T FLY to Mordor! (The Lord of the Rings)

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Here from The Game Theorists lol
Malcolm that cute guy
Malcolm that cute guy - پیش 17 ساعت
Y O U S H A L L N O T PAAAASS
laura Hudson
laura Hudson - پیش 21 ساعت
i think Gandalf looks like Dumbledore
Masked Hoodie
Masked Hoodie - پیش روز
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT THE HOBBIT MOVIES WERE GOOD?
BlueDudeGo TV
BlueDudeGo TV - پیش 2 روز
The hobbit movies were good ! I agree with you on every standpoint except this one
Ryan Eves
Ryan Eves - پیش 3 روز
So eagles are too op?
Michael Franchetti
Michael Franchetti - پیش 3 روز
Did anyone watch all the movies, said, “hey those were really good, I should read the books”. Then got halfway through the first book, got bored, and just rewatched all the movies again.
Faladrin
Faladrin - پیش 4 روز
First, all his bullshit about the eagles being demi-gods isn't in the Hobbit, The Lord of the Ring Trilogy, or the Silmariillian. The only other book I think is really cannon is some of his poetry, like the one with Farmer Maggot and Tom Bombadil. Anyway, those sources don't say shit about Eagles which is why he makes such a point of saying he doesn't count all the "extra" sources if they contradict those sources. Nice loophole Mat.
Anyway, the eagles are big, and they are strong, and I'm sure they are pretty awesome, but they are not demi-gods. I would also wager they are not as strong as some Elves given the Eagles had never been to the undying lands of the far west (Valinor) (to be fair Eagles had been to Valinor, but none of the ones currently living in Middle Earth had been there, that practice had died out a long time ago so at best the Eagles were descended from Eagles which had been to Valinor so in this regard they could claim some more power from that lineage, but it still wouldn't put them on par with elves who had lived in Valar themselves or the Maiar). The Silmarillion makes pretty clear that Elves who dwelt in Valinor under the light of the two trees along side the Valar gained much in strength and wisdom and were comparable to the Maiar (or stronger than some Maiar - AKA Sauron, Gandalf saruman Radagast the Balrog, some random blue wizards we don't hear about etc).
So, no Mat Pat, your theory is just as bad. Eagles are not demi-gods. Might they still be a threat if they had the ring? Sure I guess, but perhaps the Ents would also have been a threat. So what.
Just a note this all ties into my biggest complaints with the movies. They replaced Glorfindel, and Elf who used to dwell in Valinor, with Aarwen, Daughter of Elrond, who is only part elf to begin with and never lived in Valinor). Glorfindel is the books is clearly stated as being more powerful than Elrond and Aarwen and perhaps even Gandalf (Elrond has a ring which gives him more power and Gandalf gets a ring from Cirdan, but ignoring that here). The notion that Aarwen would have stood against even 1 ring wraith is a fricken joke. She'd be meat juice.
Mikai Voets
Mikai Voets - پیش 4 روز
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Stephen Bales
Stephen Bales - پیش 4 روز
Not gods, a hierarchy of angels. Eru Illuvitar (may’ve misspelled that) is basically God, or at least a stand-in. Valar and Maiar are just angels
a hecking walnut
a hecking walnut - پیش 4 روز
lmao I got a condom ad and then saw the intro
Malcolm MacInnis
Malcolm MacInnis - پیش 4 روز
V E R Y P U N N Y
annelentur
annelentur - پیش 5 روز
Your amazing...but please can you tray speak names properly.. SAURON!...
cary bary
cary bary - پیش 5 روز
when isidur was killed and lost the ring, Sauron didn’t send out a giant search party
Sloojie Tarp
Sloojie Tarp - پیش 6 روز
Probably my fav ft vid
Dictolory's Channel
Dictolory's Channel - پیش 6 روز
-46 degrees celsius hot enoguh to cook my noodles -some guy who lives in the artic
BoB CaT
BoB CaT - پیش 7 روز
That MGS sound file at 11:00 🤣🤣
Alther Mella
Alther Mella - پیش 7 روز
I will just be honest and say that I do not know much about the lord of the rings, but is it not so that the silmarilion says that the elves was one of the first to be created by the valar, making them more powerfull than Sauron, Gandalf and Sauruman? So why does not the elves feel the need for the ring? Okey they do not really touch the ring but they are not nearly as intense as Gandalf. As I said I do not know much about the lords of the rings and I would really like an answer because I know that I am wrong at some point but I can not figute out where or why.
Captain Lukas
Captain Lukas - پیش 7 روز
If Gandalf is the same rank as Sauron why didn’t he just 1V1 him?
Top50Reviews
Top50Reviews - پیش 8 روز
What? The Hobbit wasn't that bad...
Charlotte's Awesome Chanell
Charlotte's Awesome Chanell - پیش 8 روز
I wish I could be your friend
Maani Hamskii
Maani Hamskii - پیش 8 روز
*Possible madella effect * Grew up watching the rings trilogy as it came out and i remember it as "Run you fools" then again ive smoked allot of weed since 2008 so................
Prince ofninese
Prince ofninese - پیش 8 روز
Give the man a cookie He read the entirety of tolkeins lore
Wolf_b0i
Wolf_b0i - پیش 8 روز
Gandalf was a powerful being and he was able to travel with the ring for weeks so this does not debunk it. I also think saying it wouldn't happen because Tolkien would never have made it be thus doesn't contradict the theory either.
The actual reason why the theory is invalid is that it states clearly in the book that the eagle dropped Gandalf off near Edoras.
Martin Glynn
Martin Glynn - پیش 9 روز
"Fly like an bird"
AKMemez
AKMemez - پیش 9 روز
The second the eye saw the eagles, the nazguls would hunt them down, orcs would shoot them down.
AKMemez
AKMemez - پیش 9 روز
Lord of the rings is my favorite movie franchise of all time
alextrose7
alextrose7 - پیش 10 روز
The story does not happen "in winter" it takes place over several decades bro...
Neechi Man Gaming
Neechi Man Gaming - پیش 10 روز
MATPAT can you please do all of the LOTR history, everyone else sucks at it
Lucian Andries
Lucian Andries - پیش 10 روز
Yeah, but Frodo and Gandalf would ride on the eagle as well, so the ring wouldn't touch the eagle in any way. And Gandalf would calm the eagle with his magic, if anything...
Boy1880 Gaming
Boy1880 Gaming - پیش 11 روز
no the hobbit movies are great
Quentin Styger
Quentin Styger - پیش 11 روز
Could have saved yourself a lot of time if you just asked Steven Colbert about it.
Joe on the boat
Joe on the boat - پیش 11 روز
11:41 That face scared me a lot as a kid..
Awesome Eliam
Awesome Eliam - پیش 11 روز
who else got a lord of the rings ad?
Derek Layson
Derek Layson - پیش 11 روز
, egg Lego Lego Lego Lego
Karma the cat
Karma the cat - پیش 11 روز
they didn't fly the eagles to Mordor because they weren't "allied" with the eagles... in one of the lord of the rings games one helps the ring berrer without being with him.. in the game is a human, elf, and a dwarf.. early in the game one saves one of the eagles, later in the game an alliance is formed... I believe maybe Gandalf just had a sort of friendship with the eagles since the beginning
Chris Gramatges
Chris Gramatges - پیش 12 روز
Imagine the size of the eagles poop.
Electro-Cute
Electro-Cute - پیش 12 روز
The dumbest part with the idea of using the eagles for no good reason at all is that the eagles don't just do what ever the fuck you want them to do.
The only reason why Gandalf was saved at the tower was because the eagle king owed him a service.
The eagles would probably not have taken the threat as something of huge importance. They where proud near god like creatures that just don't do once bidding.
Electro-Cute
Electro-Cute - پیش 12 روز
Hobbits are not able to resist the control of the rings because they are weak. They are able to resist the ring because they are strong in the right way.
Anyone who uses the ring, who is also weak, is slowly turned in to a ghast.
What you see when you put on the ring is the ethereal plane. You will see ghosts and other beings who exists in both the ethereal plane as well as the real plane.
The time it took for Smeagol to turn in to the almost corpse of a hobbit about 500 years. Any normal mortal would have turned in to a ghost long before that.
The ring doesn't pray on peoples strength. It is already the embodiment of the soul of one of the strongest beings, who isn't a god, in the lore.
The fact that the hobbits could resist the mind control of the ring that well points towards hobbits having a strong mind.
Randy Edward
Randy Edward - پیش 12 روز
i thought gandalf says "Run You Fools"
Kelly Pagano
Kelly Pagano - پیش 13 روز
Good theory buster
Just A Normal Raccoon
Just A Normal Raccoon - پیش 13 روز
i like how he made this video because he misunderstood what Gandalf meant with "Fly, you fools!" Gandalf wanted them to run away from the orcs who were in Moria as "fly" is a synonym for "run"
Richard Gentry
Richard Gentry - پیش 13 روز
Tickld! Good times with that site, anyone else an ex-member? Anyone?
Pedo Woodie Official
Pedo Woodie Official - پیش 13 روز
"MatPat's Guide To Finding The One" should be a separate show to cringe out everyone watching the show.
Max
Max - پیش 14 روز
That actually solved another plothole. I always wondered, why there were no guards at Mount Doom. I mean, why would Sauron leave his only weakness unprotected? Now I know, that he didn't even consider the possibility of someone wanting to destroy the Ring
Wonder Lust
Wonder Lust - پیش 14 روز
Not only that, but how exactly were they supposed to call the eagles? Do any of them speak moth to summon them? I don't think they could just stand on the edge of the mountain and yell, KA KAAAAAA!!!
Ariana Alexander
Ariana Alexander - پیش 14 روز
MAN MY DADA IS SMARTER THAB OU HE READ EVERY BOOK THERE IS ABOUT THREE TIME AND WATCHED EVERY MOVIE THERE IS TWO TIMES AND BUSTED ALL THE THERIES!!
Carlos Venegas
Carlos Venegas - پیش 15 روز
I love this guy lmfao
Kyle Stoos
Kyle Stoos - پیش 15 روز
MatPat, you amaze me. I loved this theory!
Melantha Riddle
Melantha Riddle - پیش 15 روز
Just wait till summer then (u can tell ive never read or seen them, but this is a legit question)
Osmosis Jones
Osmosis Jones - پیش 15 روز
I first thought he turned the moth into an egal
Lurkens Kanal
Lurkens Kanal - پیش 15 روز
Reason: it whould not make a good book or movie
Mechanical Sanity
Mechanical Sanity - پیش 15 روز
but bilbo baggins was able to carry the ring on a eagle just fine in "the hobbit: an unexpected journey"...
Benjamin Brozenick
Benjamin Brozenick - پیش 16 روز
The Balrogs are maiar to
Hope Fuller
Hope Fuller - پیش 17 روز
Hello internet welcome to theory buster!
Max Kennedy
Max Kennedy - پیش 17 روز
As a Rob Schwarz pointed out below, the eagles already carried Bilbo to Mirkwood with the ring - no problem.
Fly is etymologically related to go fast, "to fly away". In fact, run may be metaphorically derived from "fly", from etymonline.
And thirdly, it's a pun, you fools - a joke (a balrog!). you can't dismiss it, and it's a valid takeoff considering a very similar thing was used to get into Moira in the first place - 'speak friend and enter'.
John jacob Jingleheimershmitz
John jacob Jingleheimershmitz - پیش 17 روز
Plot hole in the original theory:
1. Eagle flies Gandalf over the misty mountains.
1a. Mist mountains are too dangerous to fly over....
Edit: I guess he could have passed through the gap of Rohan but that's not what the movie showed.
2. The Eagles wouldn't fly over Isengard.
2a. Eagle flies to Isenguard to pick up Gandalf...
olliemad
olliemad - پیش 18 روز
i always figured that the eagles weren't used bcoos the skies above modor are protected anyway.
MZ Rohan
MZ Rohan - پیش 18 روز
My name is ROHAN!!!!
Marius Hvaal
Marius Hvaal - پیش 18 روز
The hobbit movies werent bad! I loved them!
b_lyss_fully
b_lyss_fully - پیش 18 روز
im sure the witch king woulda had something to say too if they tried to fly past him and the other 8
CT 0872
CT 0872 - پیش 18 روز
So here is the REAL question: What would happen if Smaug had the Ring?
Nick Walsh
Nick Walsh - پیش 18 روز
"Fly you fools." could simply mean "RUN YOU IDIOTS!" The term "Flight" does mean to flee, in other words "run". So, when Gandalf says, "Fly you fools," he is, in fact, telling the Fellowship to run away from Moria.
Max Kennedy
Max Kennedy - پیش 17 روز
speak friend
fulcrum 29
fulcrum 29 - پیش 18 روز
They have anti aircraft guns?
TheKnightOfSmite
TheKnightOfSmite - پیش 19 روز
They didn't fly to Mordor halfway because Saruman could have done some magic spell crap e.g. whirlwinds from Isengard like he did on the mountain trip and Sauron would have sent the Ringwraiths after them on Felbeasts, being much easier to spot in the sky -> gg Middle Earth.
If they took them into Mt Doom the Eye would have immediately turned its gaze on the eagle lighting up that exact one with Frodo and the ring on it, blinding them both probably sending them to the ground or at the very least telling any Nazgul + Felbeasts to "focus attack on this target". Not to mention all the Orc ballistas, legions of archers and catapults they can use to bring them down who suddenly get Sauron's idea of "SHOOT AT THIS TARGET". I think people are underestimating how strong Nazgul are, I mean, it's not just the unkillable wraiths but also the Witch King too would be after them. There's only so many eagles they can call upon as well being servants of the Valar and only really helped out because of Gandalf. Not accounting for the fact the ring could do some mental influence to the eagle carrying Frodo which would end up really badly for everyone.
AeneasGemini
AeneasGemini - پیش 19 روز
OOORRR, Sauron isn't a complete fucktard and has some air defences because he's a nigh-immortal sorceror and they know this
Kawaii Stefan
Kawaii Stefan - پیش 15 روز
Fellbeasts.
Max Miller
Max Miller - پیش 19 روز
The hobbit was amazing
Dominik Thattendorfer
Dominik Thattendorfer - پیش 19 روز
no the answer is easy. you cant fly with eagles, because, nazguls oder archers would attack it! eagles could safe frodo when the armies are down!!!
FrenchDipp
FrenchDipp - پیش 19 روز
I thought Eru was the only one who had any real authority to make life, while the Valar more just sculpted things with Eru's permission and he gave them life. I mean the dwarves were kind of an exception at first being made without permission, but they weren't made quite right and Eru showed mercy by giving them true life. The whole myth being based off the abrahamic religions with Eru being the one true god of the religion and the Valar/Maiar being angels of different ranks.
Thomas Halley
Thomas Halley - پیش 19 روز
Makes sense.
Gabriel Sidloi
Gabriel Sidloi - پیش 20 روز
The only Mat I still can't belive is that u didn't mention hishe once
Kong V
Kong V - پیش 20 روز
3:15 SO eagle can fly east over the mountains but cannot fly west over the mountains... because winds flows only eastward?
Mush Mush
Mush Mush - پیش 20 روز
Bilbo rode an eagle when he was carrying the ring
Mush Mush
Mush Mush - پیش 10 روز
Maestrooooo7 well then Frodo could have put the ring in his pocket then they could fly to Mordor or where ever they want to.
Maestrooooo7
Maestrooooo7 - پیش 18 روز
Mush Mush But does it make a difference if no one saw the Ring? I know the Ring talks to anyone but usually when they have eye contact with it. And not even Gandalf knew that Bilbo had the Ring all along.
KNN Animation
KNN Animation - پیش 20 روز
I like the hobbit movies 1 like=1 love for the hobbit movie
GarCo Enterprise
GarCo Enterprise - پیش 20 روز
I love pipin and Mary but the best character is Gollum may I recommend he Oscar for Gollum’s cgi it’s hilarious
catfunny403 Darth Ewok
catfunny403 Darth Ewok - پیش 21 روز
Wow now I want to study up on The Lord of The Rings lore
Shenron
Shenron - پیش 22 روز
The hobbit movies were not bad....
Cavalier Giovanni
Cavalier Giovanni - پیش 22 روز
-46° in the Alps?
The lowest temperature you can experience on the Alps, in winter, is 25 Fahrenheit (-7 Celsius).
The Italian Golden Eagle or the French Spotted Eagle do fly around the mountains and valleys, even in January.
I think you may be referring to Norway...or fucking Siberia. Lol.
PowerfulPenguino FTW
PowerfulPenguino FTW - پیش 23 روز
Did you just disgrace my Hobbit movies? >:O
[ Madman ]
[ Madman ] - پیش 23 روز
Why do people see the hobbit movies as bad ?
SharkForce
SharkForce - پیش 21 روز
mostly because they dragged them out with a whole lot of filler. and a lot of the filler wasn't good filler. that isn't to say that there was nothing good in them, just that they diluted the good with a whole lot of mediocrity or worse. i'd say there was a good movie in there somewhere... it's just mixed in with a lot of not very good movie.
don't care
don't care - پیش 24 روز
why would the wisest character in their party say to fly if it's a bad idea? why did the author write it into the movie and script? gonna go with the authors intention and say flying was what they should've done
Fandom Music Videos :3
Fandom Music Videos :3 - پیش 24 روز
MJNV TVBN PIPPIN IS MY CHILD STOP YOUR HURTING MY HEART
F. I. R. E.
F. I. R. E. - پیش 24 روز
9:42
I'm pretty sure the ring shrinks/grows to fit.
In the exposition battle of _The Fellowship of the Ring,_ when Isildur cuts the ring off of Sauron's hand and picks it up, the symbols fade and it shrinks.
That aside, this is a really good theory, and there are a few more things to back it up: for one thing, the Eagles really hate flying over the settlements of humans (or Men, since apparently everyone in Middle-Earth is sexist). Humans have a tendency to shoot them out of the sky. _How_ the measly humans shoot the _very_ spear-proof (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggr7NpXdLeU @ 1:21) Eagles out of the sky I really can't say, though. There's also the fact that, as you said, there's _no way_ Sauron would miss them, since they'd be out in the open sky, and he has traps designed specifically to catch and kill the Eagles.
MrEaglesNL
MrEaglesNL - پیش 25 روز
question who is the 2nd guy in between elf and hobbit at 8:24 and what awesome armour is he wearing?
Evagel
Evagel - پیش 25 روز
2:01 actuall, Gandalf was sending the moth to Radaghast, tell g him that Saruman was evil now. The eagle just happened to be flying around and saw Gandalf on Isengard.
Mihnea Iordan
Mihnea Iordan - پیش 25 روز
In the book, Gandalf keeps telling the fellowship to fly, as in flee
Daniel Petermode
Daniel Petermode - پیش 26 روز
you know, there is only one god of Tolkiens universe - Valars are created by Eru Ilúvatar, and humans and elf too. So Valars are not gods. They are more like angels or something.
Kaare Withersmann
Kaare Withersmann - پیش 26 روز
Fly is an old word for flee. I don't get how these theories gets to live a day when they are so majorly flawed and lacks any form of basic 'research' if you could even call it that. Guess it makes good youtube money though.
PurpleZombie
PurpleZombie - پیش 26 روز
What did they do in the book?
Zachary Mille
Zachary Mille - پیش 26 روز
The one ring will grow or shrink to fit the wearer
Heather Huber
Heather Huber - پیش 27 روز
How did I not know you made this? I'm such a fangirl for LotR and Hobbits 🤗 well, JrrTolkien
dkrattrap 1
dkrattrap 1 - پیش 27 روز
The only thing that really bothers me is the Valar are high angels and Illuvatar is the god of middle Earth
Bernard Putersznit
Bernard Putersznit - پیش 29 روز
Maiar are NOT demigods (half human half god like hercules). They are Ainu (Angelic Beings) similar to the Valar but of lesser degree.
Morshu McPherson
Morshu McPherson - پیش 29 روز
So you hate The Hobbit for being different from the book, yet, you like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory for being different from the book? Double Standards much?
F. I. R. E.
F. I. R. E. - پیش 24 روز
I think he dislikes the films because of all the plot tangents with the Elves, Azog, and Gandalf's side quest. Which, yeah, I can understand, but you're right in that those things are only bad _if_ you compare them to the book.
NUGGET
NUGGET - پیش 29 روز
Yes
Dude Farooqi
Dude Farooqi - پیش 29 روز
There's no conspiracy with the word "Fly" ... I literally heard Gandalf say "fly" as in run to them while being chased by the balrog right before the "You shall not pass seen"
Mr. Moon
Mr. Moon - پیش ماه
Gandalf explained why this is a terrible idea before. Thanks for the clarification anyways MatPat!
Shoshanna K F
Shoshanna K F - پیش ماه
wait how do the elves fit in
Michael dovan
Michael dovan - پیش ماه
And why did Sauron have two Nazgúl guard the enterance of Mt. Doom? If the ring can be destroyed by it's own forge then I would want that bitch guarded like Fort Knox
Noah H
Noah H - پیش ماه
Play 1:31 as Slow as Possible, LOL!!?
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