Film Theory: Why You SHOULDN'T FLY to Mordor! (The Lord of the Rings)

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Cameron Irle
Cameron Irle - پیش 5 ساعت
Wait is that a thing the hobbit movies were “bad”? Cuz I actually loved them lol
Morgen Stern
Morgen Stern - پیش 18 ساعت
the hobbit is my favourite movie trio
Erick Bertolotti
Erick Bertolotti - پیش روز
No one ever mentions the fact that the eagles didn't care. They showed up to save Gandalf during the hobbita because they owed hin a favor. They are very disinterested in the affairs of the world. They save Gandalf at that point and leave with a feeling close to "we're even now, thank God, leave us alone". Gandalf most likely never considered asking for the eagles because he was led to believe they would just say "...dude, no.".
It must've been a shock for him when they arrived for Frodo. Most likely, they decided to help an old bro out, and he would not imagine them doing so.
Regardless, he does state on the hobbit that they don't give much of a shit.
Enrique Rondon
Enrique Rondon - پیش 4 روز
Frodo was still going to be the bearer and get thrown into mt doom
Mewman 115
Mewman 115 - پیش 4 روز
"Valar Morghulis" "Valar Dohaeris"
dylan everett
dylan everett - پیش 4 روز
What about in the first episode of the hobit when the eagles rescue Bilbo and the dwarves while Bilbo is carrying the ring?
BlindFury21
BlindFury21 - پیش 5 روز
What is the music in the background at 6:00? Please I need the name.
dark link
dark link - پیش 5 روز
I got it. The eagles are actually Chozo. Chozo hid the creation of Metroids and the X from Federation, and Gandalf with Eagles hid their plan about flying to Mordor
DevianTrickster
DevianTrickster - پیش 6 روز
Still waiting for the "Theory Buster" episodes
Rafa Gómez
Rafa Gómez - پیش 6 روز
Btw: you cgi playing remind me of something I hate of TLOTR I: they had to use cgi (Very bad cgi) to transmogrify Blanchet's and Holmes' faces? Couldn't these two wonderful actors do it very very better? Hollywood sucks!
Tyrell Suraiya
Tyrell Suraiya - پیش 6 روز
HOW come I HAVE NOT seen & subbed to this before .. & YES, a VERY valid inquiry
ICANanimations
ICANanimations - پیش 7 روز
worst dating advice ever.
You expect me to have a single lady to say these things too.
Mr Ghost
Mr Ghost - پیش 8 روز
Actually Gandalf say run you not fly
Max Pheby
Max Pheby - پیش 8 روز
Errr dude it says in the books why they didn't. Sauron's "will" was acting like a shield around mordor and only when the ring had been destroyed could they get in there. Thats why Frodo was chosen to be ring bearer as he wouldnt show up on Sauron's powerful dude-ometer untill right at the end when Frodo claims the ring and becomes a "power".
The Boisterous Brony
The Boisterous Brony - پیش 8 روز
I really think that the person who made that theory, and those who agree, forgot that Sauron is a GIANT. FUCKING. ******EYEBALL****** ON A STICK!!!!!!!!!
Achintya Upadhyay
Achintya Upadhyay - پیش 8 روز
Even if you fit a ring on an eagle's talon's, it will not be that powerful.
Eru Iluvatar (God) created stuff. He created Valar (gods), Maiar (lesser gods), and loads of other things (middle earth, Aman, etc.). There were 14 Valar (I think). Melkor (also known as Morgoth) was one of the most powerful Valar. He rebelled against Eru. Sauron was a Maiar, who was later corrupted by Melkor. The battle in which Ancalagon (the dragon who crashed and destroyed the three mountains) was killed was fought between Melkor and the other Valar.
An eagle with a ring made by a Maiar cannot be as powerful as Melkor.
Also, eagles fought against Melkor but had nothing to do with the death of Ancalagon. He was killed by Earendil, who basically flew into him in a flying boat. That collision killed the dragon.
Idk where you get ur facts.
Madcircle Throughell
Madcircle Throughell - پیش 9 روز
Aren't there more Maiar in Silmarilion
Madcircle Throughell
Madcircle Throughell - پیش 8 روز
+Morgan Clasper oops i meant the valar Been a decade since reading the silmarilion
Morgan Clasper
Morgan Clasper - پیش 8 روز
Maiar are servants of the Valar. Gandalf and the wizards are Maiar, and Balrogs are Maiar who were corrupted by Melkor Morgoth.
KevinPlayz - Pokémon & More
KevinPlayz - Pokémon & More - پیش 9 روز
That was not Ancalagon...
core magnum
core magnum - پیش 9 روز
this is true. it's the very reason why they NEEDED a frodo and why gandalf doesn't touch the ring. eagles truly a bad idea... PSH..AS IF THEY CAN EVEN GET NEAR MORDOR. also, sauron already fought against the eagles. sauron knows they exist and that the ring can corrupt even them.
KingOfAnime117
KingOfAnime117 - پیش 9 روز
I like The Hobbit movies.
Big Daddy
Big Daddy - پیش 9 روز
am i the only one who cant relate to this vid?
Cara Marais
Cara Marais - پیش 9 روز
Pippin is my favourite character ,how dare thy !
Bob Leonheart
Bob Leonheart - پیش 9 روز
There's only one God in LOTR. Ilúvatar. The Valar were extensions of him in the same way the Maiar were extensions of the Valar.
Odd that in a video where you give credit finally to the Valar you fail to give credit to Iluvatar.

And no, the eagles with the ring wouldn't be the most powerful dark lords in the entire series. That would be Melkor. In fact Melkor with or without the ring is the most powerful dark lord in LOTR as Iluvatar shared all of his gifts with him unlike the rest of the Ainur who only got specific parts.
MaegnasMw
MaegnasMw - پیش 9 روز
According to the Hobbit (the book, NOT the movie(s), although it is shown in the movies as well), the Eagles carried Gandalf, the 13 Dwarves AND Bilbo, WITH the Ring in his vest pocket, once they emerged out of the goblin town in the Misty Mountains. Any explanation on THAT?? :P
Morgan Clasper
Morgan Clasper - پیش 8 روز
Sauron at that time was the necromancer in Mirkwood. The ring would only have become 'active' when he returned to Mordor and started seeking it.
Auroara Winberg
Auroara Winberg - پیش 10 روز
I always wondered why they never used the eagles so it makes a lot of sense now. Great video.
Uie Universe
Uie Universe - پیش 10 روز
Why am I not subscribed to the theory buster?
Cara Grace Berry
Cara Grace Berry - پیش 10 روز
Shut up hobbit was great
Janusha
Janusha - پیش 11 روز
HAH. FOUND A MISTAKE. You are mistaking the dragons. The big eagles managed to kill Glaurung. NOT Ancalagon the Black. It was Ancalagon the Black that was so huge when he fell he started volcanoes.
Morgan Clasper
Morgan Clasper - پیش 8 روز
Yeah, that's Glaurung in what I think looks like the destruction of Nargothrond.
Janusha
Janusha - پیش 8 روز
+Morgan Clasper Oh right. But that picture is a picture of Glaurung and not Ancalagon the Black. Glaurung was described as a wingless dragon and that picture is not a picture of a black dragon. Nor is it Ancalagon the Black.
Morgan Clasper
Morgan Clasper - پیش 8 روز
Turin Turambar killed Glaurung several hundred years before the valar attacked Morgoth and Ancalagon appeared. Ancalagon was fought by the eagles, although Earendil delivered the killing blow. When Ancalagon died he fell upon the three towers of Thangorodrim (volcanoes) and destroyed them.
The Minecraft Fellowship
The Minecraft Fellowship - پیش 11 روز
Claims he got the Silmarillion 
Gets the f***ing creation of the Earth in LOTR more wrong than the idea that the Earth is flat (in real life not in LOTR)
It's in the F***ing first chapter man.
NovaPlays
NovaPlays - پیش 11 روز
He forgot Eru luvitar
Mansard Joule
Mansard Joule - پیش 11 روز
I always thought he said, "Run you fools." lol
Mohamed Ibrahim
Mohamed Ibrahim - پیش 12 روز
5:43 whats the name of the background music track?
Dustin Tran
Dustin Tran - پیش 12 روز
the intro music is so bad, please change
mma_jim
mma_jim - پیش 13 روز
We all know that Gandalf just wanted all of that sweet XP for himself
Foggy Doggy
Foggy Doggy - پیش 13 روز
3.4k Eagles disliked this theory...



Sorry I shouldn't have said that.
Ashton Null
Ashton Null - پیش 13 روز
Hello matpat u r awesome!!!!😁😁😁😁😁😎😎😎😎
Bram Deuss
Bram Deuss - پیش 13 روز
Then why didn't the eagles get tempted when they carried Bilbo (and the ring) in The Hobbit?
Bob C. Cock
Bob C. Cock - پیش 14 روز
He meant "RUN!" because they were in immediate danger. That he was expendable. That Frodo and the Ring were most important. Fly you fools means to run. Period.
jefthereaper
jefthereaper - پیش 14 روز
Funny thing is “how it should have ended” actually touched upon that too, instead they just blindfolded the eagles.
wojtek noskowiak
wojtek noskowiak - پیش 15 روز
>Alps
>A fucking Norwegian flag
WLMG /ZoruaBros
WLMG /ZoruaBros - پیش 15 روز
I'm mostly surprised about Melkor not playing bigger role in this.
Also maiar are basically immortals, so where is Sauron and Saruman.
Not to mention would love to see you make a theory about silmarils.
Like... Where they are or just how poerful they are or some stuff.
This comment will never be seen again after vanishing to comment section so why am I writing this.
jefthereaper
jefthereaper - پیش 15 روز
I like this theory a lot more then the one we had before this.
Good job as always!
Mostly just kudos for reading all that lore, I love lore myself for games, books and movies.
But I can't get myself to read through all of it in a matter of weeks, leave alone for so many different settings as the theory channel does.
Awks Thedoc
Awks Thedoc - پیش 16 روز
Had to stop watching due to your corny ass jokes bro 😑 i was seriously interested in this theory but your cringy crappy jokes just ruined lord of the rings for me 😡 thanks for nothing unfunny asshole
UnitSe7en
UnitSe7en - پیش 16 روز
Gandalf does not say "Fly, you fools." He says _"RUN,_ you fools."
joseph sawczyn
joseph sawczyn - پیش 16 روز
I like everything in this video and agree with it all except the part were MatPat says Sauron can't fathom anyone wanting to destroy the ring. Isildur was right there in mount doom, ready to throw the ring in before he circum to the temptation
Dijha DiamondBack
Dijha DiamondBack - پیش 17 روز
Got to go buy all the books now
Isaiah Pryor
Isaiah Pryor - پیش 17 روز
I also hated what they did with the hobbit movies...
Isaiah Pryor
Isaiah Pryor - پیش 17 روز
When I read the hobbit in 3rd grade, I thought it was boring, then LOTR was a new level of boring (although my favorite trilogy ever nonetheless) and then the silmarillion was so freaking boring, then unfinished tails I gave up. I am a big tolkien fan so I even went to new zealand on a tour of the movie sites
lhw1221
lhw1221 - پیش 17 روز
Theory buster Confirmt !!!!
God
God - پیش 17 روز
that map of the alps has yugoslavaia on it
Nothing Special
Nothing Special - پیش 18 روز
Did some one say Möth?

Lämp
LightningClaw
LightningClaw - پیش 18 روز
I love it how he uses the map of Yugoslavia I simply love it so much.
ecogreen 123
ecogreen 123 - پیش 18 روز
99,600th like!!!
Wulfrom
Wulfrom - پیش 18 روز
But the eagles picked up Bilbo after he picked up the One Ring after exiting the Misty Mountains. Why didn't they turn into robo-eagle-transformers with lasers and a hat then?
gregory yauman
gregory yauman - پیش 18 روز
its kinda obvious why really the eagles only willing to enter after suron is defeated
Falaah
Falaah - پیش 19 روز
Why is everyone hating on 'The Hobbit' movies?!! They were amazing!
Max Kennedy
Max Kennedy - پیش 19 روز
Or Gandal could have been saying "Fly from Moria" instead of "run you fools"
I just discovered that Moria in Greek, by using a Greek concordance, means "fool and foolishness" from moros - foolish, where we get the word moron. So saying something like Moria in Greek is saying fools in english.
And Tolkien used to translate the Bible . Never cross swords with a master linguist.
(ie Matthew 23:17 GRK: μωροὶ καὶ τυφλοί
NAS: You fools and blind men! Which
KJV: [Ye] fools and blind:)
junior fio
junior fio - پیش 21 روز
1:29 "Why do they not fly to Mordor."
Me: One does not simply walk into Mordor.
Lord Skufberry
Lord Skufberry - پیش 21 روز
It’s Sauron not Soron
Plus The destruction of that other continent was actually pretty well explained
AyeMiner
AyeMiner - پیش 21 روز
I can’t believe you don’t like the hobbit
Living Behind
Living Behind - پیش 21 روز
They are not giant eagles....they are eagle gods....like gandalf isnt a human coz he looks like one....just like why gandalf cannot act alone and take the ring away to destroy alone, just like gandalf isnt fighting....just like Eru is just watching his creations doing whatever....Well, not exactly, he planed those pieces to finish the plan that lower/younger races finally accepted, the ring must be destroyed, the age must change ....That is their role....
Living Behind
Living Behind - پیش 21 روز
aka : Why god didnt send his angels to save the babies the romans killed....etc. Part of a plan...
HotsGuide101
HotsGuide101 - پیش 21 روز
I liked the hobbit
Thomas Fry
Thomas Fry - پیش 22 روز
If you read the hobbit, it explains that eagles are powerful but rather vain creatures, and they only help if they feel like it. Boom. The eagles just didn't want to fly the company at that time.
Calila PloyPloy
Calila PloyPloy - پیش 23 روز
Someone on Twiter please send this to the nostalgia critic who is so sure that this is a plot hole. I love him but that is stupid.
Calila PloyPloy
Calila PloyPloy - پیش 23 روز
¡Thanks! fuck
Frangitus
Frangitus - پیش 23 روز
12 minutes to say that the Eye of Sauron is watching and that the nazgûl have fellbeasts
malizec
malizec - پیش 23 روز
that's a lot of Alps
MasterOfHyrule
MasterOfHyrule - پیش 24 روز
THE THREE GODS ARE DIN NAYRU AND FAROE!!!!!!! GET IT RIGHT!!!
Max Kennedy
Max Kennedy - پیش 24 روز
The point about the eagles being afraid of being shot seems completely bogus as well. They fought in the battle of five armies, which is even more dangerous then a secret flight mission. And orcs shoot bows and darts too, just like men - for instance, the scene right after this one where they are shooting at them as they leave Moira, or Boromir's death. etc.
Elijah Bolton
Elijah Bolton - پیش 25 روز
MCs: Use eagles.
Sauron and literally every orc in Mordor: 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂😆🤣😂😆😂😆😂😂
Texas Traveler
Texas Traveler - پیش 25 روز
The answer is simple. Look at the date "The Fellowship Of The Ring" came out. December 10, 2001. Three months after the 9/11 attacks. There were no Eagles available at the time, because all the Eagles were shut down and nobody was able to fly ANYWHERE. And that includes Mordor.
Angry Jesus
Angry Jesus - پیش 26 روز
9:15 straight up lie, it was the elf dude on his magic ship with one silmalirion
RichardFeynmanRules
RichardFeynmanRules - پیش 26 روز
Only a Hobbit could have returned the One Ring undetected into Mordor. Not giant eagles carrying the One Ring right into the skies of Mordor and into all-seeing vision of The Eye of Sauron, who would have sensed the One Ring like a giant flare in the sky.
RichardFeynmanRules
RichardFeynmanRules - پیش 8 روز
+pedro henrique I agree...not even the Lord of the Eagles would have been able to get through Mordor. And Tolkien himself discounts the idea.
pedro henrique
pedro henrique - پیش 8 روز
plus the fact that saruman would be casting evrything against the eagles
RichardFeynmanRules
RichardFeynmanRules - پیش 19 روز
Hey Hex! Having read LOTR more than 20 times in the past 45 years, yeah, I think I know about Tom Bombadil! I don't think even dancing Tom could make it to Mordor undetected, let alone carrying the One Ring! Supporting this view, I offer this from the great LOTR Wiki: "Not only does the Ring have no effect on him, but Tom himself seems unable to affect the Ring in return. This shows that Tom was outside the divine plan and struggle and had no position in it. During the Council of Elrond it is suggested that the Free-Peoples entrust the Ring to Tom, but this is rejected due to the probability that he would lose it, because according to Gandalf, such things had no hold on his mind. It is also stated that if Sauron were to regain the Ring, Tom Bombadil would be the last to fall. It is also stated by Galdor that 'Power to defy our enemy is not in him, unless such power is in the earth itself. And yet we see that Sauron can torture and destroy the very hills.' implying that Bombadil is in some way connected with the very earth itself."
Hex
Hex - پیش 19 روز
Nah, tell that to Tom Bombadil. He can literally, moonwalk into Mordor, alone, without being detected. Try searching about him. He'll blow your mind ;)
steefan
steefan - پیش 26 روز
Because walking is good exercise.
Lars Lööf
Lars Lööf - پیش 27 روز
Why does the guy in the alps have a Norwegian hat on?
Alatar The Blue
Alatar The Blue - پیش 27 روز
These misconceptions come from people who are too lazy to read the books.
Hagen34
Hagen34 - پیش 27 روز
I used to think it was "Frolic, you fools". A suggestion for the Fellowship to cheerfully dance in the nearest meadow outside amongst the flowers...
mrhappyminer123
mrhappyminer123 - پیش 29 روز
art you the odd ones out
LVcatTale
LVcatTale - پیش 29 روز
**cringe**
Lucas Greene
Lucas Greene - پیش 29 روز
"If they can manage to fit the ring on their talons" ----- The ring shapeshifts and can fit whoever tries to wear it. This is something that is addressed because obviously Sauron has large hands in his war form, and Frodo ahould nwver be able to wear it if a human cam wear it given the size difference of their bodies.
But thats just another thing Mat Pat got wrong like virtually eveything in his For Honor video lol
Harm Contour
Harm Contour - پیش ماه
The movie doesn't do a good job explaining that the ring of power works proportionally to the power of the holder?
Did you watch the same movies I did?
There's literally two instances of this being spelled out to the audicene. One: Gandalf (the clip you show). Two: Galadriel going nuts.
Furthermore it's being hinted at when Aragorn refuses the ring in FotR.
Ian Svantesvold
Ian Svantesvold - پیش ماه
There's Only One God: Eru Iluvatar.
Among The Ainur High Lords & Lady's, 10 of them,
5 male+5 female minus Morgoth R known as The Valar.
Under the Valar R the Maiar, Sauron among those.
And then the Istari: 5 Wizards;
Saruman the White, Gandalf the Gray, Radagast the Brown,
Alatar & Pallando.
FennicaFox
FennicaFox - پیش ماه
0:33 OMG SHE SO BOOTIFUL
Daughter of King Sombra
Daughter of King Sombra - پیش ماه
Becuz were stupid our leader Gandalf is a complete idiot
Brethren of Yeshua
Brethren of Yeshua - پیش ماه
I always thought he said "run you fools" "nooooooooooooooooo(Frodo)"
Tonya Ferguson
Tonya Ferguson - پیش ماه
1:11 what do you mean The Hobbit movies were just as good as the Lord of the Rings film itself ( which just so you know both were AWESOME and if you don't agree with me you should jump mount dooms lava)
LUKE lcs
LUKE lcs - پیش ماه
0:40
AMEN TO THAT!
The Zora Link
The Zora Link - پیش ماه
Dear matpat, you have debunked a theory, but... I found a hole in your debunkization
If the eagles can’t be close to the ring because they will get gollumized and stuff, why did they help Bilbo on the burning tree.
In the hobbit, after bilbo gets the One Ring, they get on the tree whilst being roasted and the eagles save bilbo while he has the ring. But this minor change won’t effect the results of the eagle way being wrong.
From your fan, The Zora Link
Morgan Clasper
Morgan Clasper - پیش 9 روز
Sauron at that time was the necromancer in Mirkwood, wasn't he? He wouldn't be looking for the ring until he returned to Mordor. It makes sense that it would have been largely 'inactive'.
Carlitos Musso
Carlitos Musso - پیش 24 روز
because when bilbo had it, it wasn't a threat to middle earth. Maybe Sauron was sleeping or sth? I guess. Dunno. Same when it was with Golumm
Вад Чернов
Вад Чернов - پیش ماه
Because they didnt know about Bilbo having the one ring at that point? Even Gandalf didnt know untill much later, and he also had to go and consult with some ancient scrolls to make sure, even after he saw it. Being aware that this artifact can corrupt you doesnt equal having an extrasensorial radar telling you when it's nearby.
Watch Ok
Watch Ok - پیش ماه
I really liked the music
King OF Rolplay
King OF Rolplay - پیش ماه
YOU SHAl NOT PASS
Director Kid
Director Kid - پیش ماه
What the heck, I thought Gandalf says "Run you fools"
eodred di acquaneve
eodred di acquaneve - پیش ماه
Still I never imagined that they could have been tempted by the Ring too
eodred di acquaneve
eodred di acquaneve - پیش ماه
No way you can get you airforce doing What you want until you don't get air superiority
Calvin Beckett
Calvin Beckett - پیش ماه
For the Maiar. Where is Radagast and the two blue wizards at?? Aren't they demigods as well??
Des Oliver
Des Oliver - پیش ماه
I'm sure he says 'run you fools'.
Soham Chopra
Soham Chopra - پیش ماه
But they carry the one ring with bilbo on them during the hobbit when they are escaping the goblins
Sillysaurus
Sillysaurus - پیش ماه
But Sauron is the servant of morgarath, so therefore he is between the maker and valar, because morgarath is one of the most powerful valar.
That One Black Guy
That One Black Guy - پیش ماه
His voices gets higher with each video
burnt f1ames
burnt f1ames - پیش ماه
Eagles banned from middle earth
king ankle biter
king ankle biter - پیش ماه
If the weather is too bad for the eagles to fly over the misty mountains then how’d the eagle fly him from Isengard to the eagle nest in the first place?
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